So, the way I see this is that if you do the sort of super specialised corporate activity, with just basic governance, and these guys actually had exceptionally higher levels of governance, the people in the group, I mean, forget the founders whose visions that these specialists or these CEOs of different companies are embodying. So, the way I see this is that if you do the sort of super specialised corporate activity, with just basic governance, and these guys actually had exceptionally higher levels of governance, the people in the group, I mean, forget the founders whose visions that these specialists or these CEOs of different companies are embodying. Economic Times