UK Defence Secretary John Healey says there can be no negotiation on Ukraine without Ukraine. UK Defence Secretary John Healey says there can be no negotiation on Ukraine without Ukraine.
Ukraine must be at heart of talks, says Healey
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UK Defence Secretary John Healey says there can be no negotiation on Ukraine without Ukraine. UK Defence Secretary John Healey says there can be no negotiation on Ukraine without Ukraine.